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Info-Hams Digest            Sat,  5 Mar 94       Volume 94 : Issue  243

Today's Topics:
                    Adam Weiss, WA1WMZ, Silent Key
                  ARRL--->Online Repeater directory
             Further criminalization of scanning (2 msgs)
                     Have a say about ARRL policy
                      How's the Kenwood TH-28A?
                    QST review of Dual-Bander HTs
                            Repeater Dir.

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Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:55:29 -0500
From: noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: Adam Weiss, WA1WMZ, Silent Key
To: [e-mail]

It is with great sadness that I must announce the passing of Adam Weiss,
WA1WMZ, a longtime ham radio operator.

I had known Adam for over 20 years.  I first met him when I was in
highschool at a ham meeting of the Westchester Emergency Communications
Association.  Proving it was a small world, my brother married a woman
he had previously been engaged to (both were hams).  I later re-met him
when joining Mensa, and he held a corner of the chupa and signed the
Catuba
at my wedding.

The Funeral services will be held at Riverside Chapel in Mt. Vernon, NY,
Sunday at 1:00.  Shiva will be observed Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday by
his parents at his house.


  --  Ed in CT,
      AD2X
      [e-mail]

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Date: 1 Mar 94 13:08:46 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!rohvm1![e-mail]
Subject: ARRL--->Online Repeater directory
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Stephen Baker) wrote:

> The league publishes the repeater directory which it currently enjoys monopoly
> status.  This must be enormously profitable for them as they are the sole source
> for such a directory, (maps aside).

Enormously profitable?  I don't think the League makes a _bundle_ on
anything.  They _are_ a business, though.  As others have pointed out,
non-profit does not mean that you can't _make_ money, it just governs what
you _do_ with the money you make.

> I wonder if they have priviledged access to
> this information by virtue of some role they play in the frequency coordination
> process?

Not _privileged_ access to it.  Again as pointed out, they don't own the
data.

>
> If this is the case, then there is a conflict of interest issue here, and they
> should not in the repeatern directory business and frequency coordination
> business simultaneously if they will harrass competition.

I don't see them harrassing competition, but rather protecting their
copyright.  There are sharp limits to that right, and from what I've heard,
they haven't exceeded them.  If you wrote something, would you feel that
others should be able to take it and claim it was their own?

>
> As a league member, I feel it is the role of the League to encourage such
> innovations as an online repeater directory and callbook and should be providing
> these services to it's membership at cost or free themselves!

Fine.  You wanna increase the membership dues, you lobby the league for
that.

> I question how
> responsive the league is to the needs of the membership and to innovation.

Do you complain to your Section Manager and Director, or just here?


I think an on-line repeater directory would be a great idea, and I hope the
chap who suggested it follows through with a non-infringing version of it.
It's just that we can't trample intellectual-property rights underfoot in
our enthusiasm for a good idea.  These rights belong to everybody, you
included.

--
73  de  John Taylor    W3ZID
[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Mar 94 17:08:30 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com![e-mail]
Subject: Further criminalization of scanning
To: [e-mail]

Basic Civil Law (as I learned in Business School) has the following logic:
If a person looses his property, then if found, belongs still to him.
If a person casts away his property, then if found, belongs to the finder.
If extended to radio waves, then this implies that any signal sent out
into the general public domain with intent and not being expected to be
returned, belongs to anyone who can receive them.  What gives anyone the right
to send radio waves through my body without me having the right to do with
them whatever I want.  This principal has been in effect for years and years.
If you dont want someone to hear you on the radio, then you should encrypt the
signal in some way that the people you dont want listening cant un-encrypt.
73 KI5YN
My own opinion, not related in any way to my employeers.

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Date: 2 Mar 94 17:59:38 GMT
From: nih-csl![e-mail]
Subject: Further criminalization of scanning
To: [e-mail]

Karl Meyer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: It seems to me the FBI and FCC are trying to drive scanner manufacturers out of
: business by continually forcing them to redesign the circuitry. These laws
: aren't enforceable anyway unless you use the info in such a way that it can be
: proven you listened, which in itself is illegal.

I agree that the laws stink, but why does everyone always go for the big
conspiracy theory?  I seriously doubt that the FBI and FCC are trying to
"drive scanner manufacturers out of business".  I also doubt that the FCC
cares what you listen to.  The ECPA is an act of Congress, not FCC.

What I think we should do is write to our congresspeople and tell them why
we feel the cellular and cordless privacy laws are so misguided.  Even if
they outlaw the manufacture of scanners that can receive cordless
(and I haven't heard anyone say that that is what is up for debate --
only outlawing *listening*, not manufacture), those radios are going to be
around for a long, long time as used equipment.   The effects of the law
will be to a) *not* severly restrict the availability of cordless-capable
scanners and b) give the public a false sense of security.

Rather than thickening the law books, the government should educate the
public about what is going on.  The public will demand encrypted
cordless phones and the manufacturers will deliver.  Then the radio
voyeurs have more challenges to liven up the sport :-).  All the law is
going to do is damage the lives of the very few people who get caught and
damage the lives of the many who blab all sorts of confidential information
on their cordless phones.

I'd be interested if other people agree.


--Neil



--
Neil Weisenfeld, Computer Engineer       Internet: [e-mail]
Nat'l Insts. of Health, 12A/2033         Voice:    301/402-4030
Bethesda, MD  20892                      Fax:      [phone]

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Date: 2 Mar 94 19:06:07 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!helium![e-mail]
Subject: Have a say about ARRL policy
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Ed Hare (KA1CV) <[e-mail]> wrote:
>You can also usually find your Division Director at most major hamfests

How much do they usually sell for?

:)

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Date: 2 Mar 94 19:08:23 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: How's the Kenwood TH-28A?
To: [e-mail]

William L. Phillips <[e-mail]> writes:

>I am considering as a replacement the Kenwood TH-28A. It is only
>2m TX, but, frankly, I won't miss 440 (I have used it only a few times
>since I have had my radio). It is smaller, lighter, allows paging
>and message storage (sort of), has a greater number of freq. memories,
>has a shorter, stockier antenna, has the same output power as my
>present radio... the list goes on.

Will,
I got to use a th28 before i bought my th78.  It is a great radio
but .... no lit keypad??? a friend n1qhr, says it is the only
downside to the rig.  otherwise, small, light, and built well.

also, consider the new mini ht's , i have checked out the kenwood and
yaesu and the are both excellent rigs.

good luck

petye brunelli
n1qdq

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Date: 2 Mar 94 19:03:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com![e-mail]
Subject: QST review of Dual-Bander HTs
To: [e-mail]

Allen Wallace <[e-mail]> writes:

>For example, I've heard a rumor that the TH-78A can transmit AM down in
>the aircraft band. I don't believe it, nor would I ever want to transmit
>down there!

Allen,

Properly modified, the th78 ca TUNE from 50mhz to 999.975mhz, with a
few gaps at 200 and 500.  rx sensitivity varies but it is useable from
100mhz up.
One thing that the article didn ot address is the poor intermod
rejection of several of the reviewed units.  Here in central CT
tyhe pager industry is booming and nmy rig is very (th78) sensitive
to it.  Rumor has it that the standard is the best for imd rejection.

On the up side, the th78 has eexcellent features, easy to use, not
THAT hard to program, and the alpha-numeric display riulkes!!
that is RULes.... bad editor.....

the manual is about the worst of any i have seen, but until hewlett
packard starts making ht's, i do not see it getting better.

good luck

pete brunelli
n1qdq

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Date: 1 Mar 94 14:36:58 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu!cunyvm!rohvm1![e-mail]
Subject: Repeater Dir.
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Roy)
wrote:

> What we need is to help get the info to someone that will put the data
> togather. As was said before we can not use the info that is in the ARRL
> version. We gather and post from other sorces... Are there enough of us
> to get all the info we need? Is there a person we can mail the info to
> using a form the requires minimal messing to put in a data base? Is my
> hand up? (not sure) Let me know what you folks think....

I'll be happy to supply the information for the W3SK, WE3E and WR3B
repeaters in Bucks County, PA.  Just let me know to whom I should send it.

--
73  de  John Taylor    W3ZID
[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Mar 94 18:05:47 GMT
From: news.larc.nasa.gov!grissom.larc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <2l2fk0$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>.la
Subject : Re: QST review of Dual-Bander HTs

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Popovich) writes:
>[e-mail] (Lee Devlin) writes:
>
>> Actually, there are quite a few hams with pilot's licenses that would
>> *love* to have a radio that can do that.  A typical aviation handheld
>> costs around $500 and they are becoming a very popular accessory as a
>> backup radio.
>
>The problem here, of course, is that the aviation handhelds are type
>accepted for aviation use, and the TH-78A is not.  It's against FCC
>regulations to use the TH-78A to transmit in the aircraft band.  If I
>had one along in an airplane and there was an emergency requiring its
>use, then I'd use it, but I wouldn't expect the FCC to be pleased.

Well, I'd love to buy a type accepted aviation handheld that could also
be used with FM on the ham bands.  That would be fine.
--scott

You know, for most of my life, I have modified old commercial and aviation
radios to use on the ham bands.  As a result, I am surprised to see so many
people trying to modify ham rigs to use for commercial and aviation use....
--
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:28:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!wetware!spunky.RedBrick.COM!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <CSLE87-020394103111@145.39.1.10>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: On-line Repeater Directory

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: That's right on, good mind reading. While I think the ARRL position is
: shaky at best here, I don't want to see tanks rumbling down Main St.
: in Newington either. The BATF and FBI death squads are already bad

I dunno.  Might be entertaining.

: enough, let's not have the Copyright Office or the FCC start donning
: ninja suits and slaughtering Americans too.
--
Jon Bloom KE3Z   [e-mail]

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Date: 2 Mar 94 14:49:07 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <ah301-010394145634@sy_j.pgh.wec.com>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: JARGON

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>very good
>>fine business
>
>These are just null noises emitted instead of, or in addition to, "Uhhh"
>and Ahhh" as space fillers for dead air. In some rare instances, they
>may actually mean "OK" or "I heard you", but the ham couldn't bring himself
>to use plain English. Their presence almost always means that no real
>conversation is occurring.

    Ah! The joys of "Hamspeak" as my ex-wife called it. It seems
radio amateurs are true masters of content free communication. Yes, I
know the previous sentence contains an oxymoron.

    Wheras real mortals will say: "Blew a fuse this morning". A
true ham will spin it out with a desciption of what equipment was
drawing current at the time, who was effected, the duration of the
outage and the total milage driven to buy a new fuse. A skilled ham
communicator can spin a simple event out so that the description of it
takes three times longer than the duration of the actual event.


--
Julian Macassey, N6ARE  [e-mail] Voice: [phone]
Paper Mail: Apt 225, 975 Hancock Ave, West Hollywood, California 90069-4074

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